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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159321519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tatsuyuki Ishi <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159321519">(Feb 25 2019 at 08:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>How much is Zulip different from other thread-based productivity tools in the way it works? Examples are Spectrum, Discourse or even GitHub.<br>
All of the examples uses the concept of thread as the basis of the conversation, but in the order I mentioned they are more focused on longer and persistent messages, like the main topic body. Is it a reason Zulip is preferable to those tools?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330013" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330013">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well one response is that maybe we don't <em>want</em> to optimize for persistence as much as those platforms do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330016">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but its not a very strong argument</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330052" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330052">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are any of those platforms optimized for live chat?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330106" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330106">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>For example, I'm not aware of any one using Discourse or Github for live interaction in practice. (Maybe I'm missing out on something.) And I had not heard of Spectrum before you mentioned it, so I cannot comment on it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330161">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in any case, skimming over a <a href="https://spectrum.chat/product-design/general/user-interviews~764331db-16dd-4fc4-a2c5-aabd735a64a9" target="_blank" title="https://spectrum.chat/product-design/general/user-interviews~764331db-16dd-4fc4-a2c5-aabd735a64a9">sample dialogue</a> on spectrum.chat, and based on my own use of discourse, my most immediate reaction of why I prefer Zulip <em>for live chat</em> is that it encourages short messages</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330166">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Encouraging short messages is what enables, hopefully, interruption from others (when necessary/relevant; no one wants to just invite noise)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330209" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330209">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is necessary for true dialogue.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330243">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>Conversely, when the UI encourages a person to spell out an email sized chunk of text, that is going to introduce latency on each step of both <em>writing</em> and <em>reading</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip%20compared%20with%20other%20thread-based%20solutions/near/159330899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Hanna Kruppe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122653-zulip/topic/Zulip.20compared.20with.20other.20thread-based.20solutions.html#159330899">(Feb 25 2019 at 11:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>seconded, i like zulip because it has the immediacy of a chat program while the threading often avoids new messages drowning out unrelated older ones</p>



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